Skip to main content

How to Show a Mormon the Difference Between the Mormon Jesus and the Biblical Jesus

I find that Mormons frequently claim they are Christians, and that they want to be referred to as Christians, and they have even recently sought to distance themselves from the word “Mormon.” The problem is, they worship another Jesus, and here is how to show them the difference between the Mormon Jesus and the Biblical Jesus. Before we get to that, some clarifications are necessary.

 

The Mormon President Russell Nelson said, 

 

“What’s in a name or, in this case, a nickname? When it comes to nicknames of the Church, such as the “LDS Church,” the “Mormon Church,” or the “Church of the Latter-day Saints,” the most important thing in those names is the absence of the Savior’s name. To remove the Lord’s name from the Lord’s Church is a major victory for Satan. When we discard the Savior’s name, we are subtly disregarding all that Jesus Christ did for us—even His Atonement.”[1]

 

So, according to Nelson, to call Mormons, Mormons, is a victory for Satan. So, this also means that to call an anti-Mormon (an arguably pejorative term for those who speak against LDS beliefs), an anti-Mormon, a name that they are told not to use by their own president, is also a victory for Satan. In other words, Mormons are anti-Mormons if they use the term, “anti-Mormon.”

 

If you use the term, “anti-Mormon,” then you are an anti-Mormon

 

The logic is simple:

1.     Mormons are told not to refer to themselves as Mormon because it removes the word “Jesus.”

2.     Calling someone an anti-Mormon removes the word “Jesus,” and refers to themselves as Mormons.

3.     Therefore, Mormons who call other people “anti-Mormon” are anti-Mormon themselves.

 

So, when someone calls you an anti-Mormon, tell them that they are as well. Now that we have this understanding, we can continue with how Mormons worship another Jesus. Mormons either knowingly or unknowingly try to intrude on the title, Christian. But the problem is, they have fundamentally different beliefs about Jesus than Christians. 


The Difference

The Mormon Jesus is ultimately a created being. According to Mormons, Heavenly Father (the Mormon phrase for “God”) created Jesus and therefore Jesus has a beginning. 

 

“We believe Jesus is the Son of God the Father and as such inherited powers of godhood and divinity from His Father, including immortality, the capacity to live forever. While He walked the dusty roads of Palestine as a man, He possessed the powers of a God and ministered as one having authority, including power over the elements and even power over life and death.”[2]

 

The difference between the Mormon Jesus and the Biblical Jesus can often take some linguistic acrobatics in order for Mormons to understand that the Mormon Jesus is fundamentally different than the Jesus we see in the Bible. If you ask a Mormon if they worship the same Jesus as Christians, they will almost always say that they do. Then your next step is to ask them if Jesus had a beginning; if He was ever created. They will say that He existed before the creation, and was with the Father before the creation of the world. The problem is that this sounds like what Christians believe, but it is fundamentally different. What they mean is that Heavenly Father (the Mormon phrase for “God”), created spirits before the world began. 

Mormons believe that “We lived as spirit children of God in a premortal existence.”[3] In other words, Heavenly Father created spirit children and eventually, these spirits were sent to earth, and filled all human bodies, but the problem is that we forgot our pre-mortal existence.[4] Jesus was supposedly one of these spirit children. So, according to Mormons, Jesus did exist before the creation of the world, but not before the creation of spirit children. This is the fundamental difference between Mormons and Christians about the beliefs in the deity of Christ. Perhaps a good question to ask Mormons at this point is, "Did Jesus exist before the creation of spirit children?" To this question, they will answer "no," and this is how you can begin to show them the difference between The Mormon Jesus and the Christian Jesus.  


NOTE: For the Mormons who say that they do not believe that Jesus is a created being, the difference can still be found between the Mormon Jesus and the biblical Jesus through the Mormon teaching that the Father and the Son are two distinct beings. But otherwise, if you press them on whether or not Jesus is the "first born spirit child of Heavenly Father," they cannot deny this based on their scripture. Some may try to explain that Heavenly Father is a re-arranger of particles, and in this sense, Jesus has always existed, but still not as a person (or even a spirit). In any event, press them on Jesus being the first born spirit child of Heavenly Father.





For a Mormon, Jesus is ultimately a created being, but for a Christian, Jesus is not a created being. He always existed. In the gospel of John, verses one through three, we find in the King James Version of the Bible, the Bible that Mormons claim is their own scripture, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”[5] So then according to this passage, Jesus, at the beginning of all that is created, was already in existence. Not only that, but the Bible says that all things were created through Him. This would seem to include spirit children. This is the fundamental difference between what Mormons believe about Jesus and what Christians believe about Jesus. This is also why we should continue to refer to Mormons as Mormons and not as Christians.

After you ask them if Jesus had a beginning, show them how the Bible communicates that this is impossible. It is impossible because Jesus would’ve had to create Himself, according to John 1:1-3, which is absurd. “Without Him was not any thing made that was made.” The Christian Jesus is fundamentally different from the Mormon Jesus because He is not a created being. If you have a conversation with a Mormon willing to discuss this in depth, they must come to agree with you about the differences, because these differences become glaringly clear. Perhaps then, they may understand why Christians do not call Mormons Christian.

I think this distinction is necessary because it is deceiving to those unaware and seeking. If there is a person who heard the name of Jesus and is curious about it, they may begin to seek Him and bump into “The church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-day Saints.” When the unfamiliar or even strange doctrines start to appear, and the seeker responds, “Are you a Christian?” and the Mormon replies in the affirmative, deception indeed takes place. This distinction is absolutely necessary. 

Mormons refer to themselves as Mormons when they call someone an anti-Mormon, so where is the error when Christians want to continue calling them Mormons as well? They call themselves such when they speak the term, anti-Mormon, and they believe in a fundamentally different (Mormon) Jesus. Until some big and necessary changes happen in Mormon beliefs and doctrine, let’s keep the title Christian away from Mormonism.

 

“Contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.” –Jude 3

 

 

For more, see my book on Mormonism:

https://www.amazon.com/Mormonism-Refuting-Fundamental-Apologetics-Latter-Day/dp/1662885377/ 



 

 Written by Nace Howell through the grace of the Lord Jesus.


 © Nace Howell, 2023 

Comments

Popular posts from this blog

Joseph Smith had the same Demon that influenced Muhammad

What does Islam have in common with Mormonism? Seriously, the similarities are uncanny. Like human beings, demons are creatures of habit . The Bible does not tell us much about them, but from what it does tell us, we can learn a lot. Jesus reveals to us some things about their behavior: When the unclean spirit has gone out of a person, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, but finds none. Then it says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when it comes, it finds the house empty, swept, and put in order. Then it goes and brings with it seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they enter and dwell there, and the last state of that person is worse than the first… [1]   Jesus clearly knows that demons have typical behaviors. He has seen it many times before. He lets us know that a typical behavior for a demon is that home is where the heart is . When your house crumbles to the ground, you move to a new one. Likewise, when a person dies, the demon is f

All Bark and No Bite: A Book Critique of Dan Barkers, "godless"

As I read through Dan Barker’s book, “ godless ,” I became more and more heartbroken as the pages turned. Barker explains that he was, at the early age of fifteen, on fire for God. In chapter one, he recalls that he came from a Pentecostal background and admits that at a revival meeting he attended was “spirit-filled… intense, bursting with rousing music and emotional sermons.” [1]  It seems that right off the bat, that his experience was only based on emotion. This is the opposite of what the Bible teaches. Jesus said,  Therefore, everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and be

What is a Cult?

There are many ways to answer this question, because there are many facets to the question itself. Often when we hear the word,  cult , we think of something bad, or downright evil, based on our own experiences which possibly came about through watching the Children of the Corn [1]  or something to that nature.  Sociologically speaking, a cult is “a religious or semi-religious sect or group whose members are often controlled or dominated almost entirely by a single individual or organization.” [2]  This lens of understanding is different than a theological perspective, or even an anthropological perspective.  Anthropologically speaking, a cult is any religious belief system that has its origins in another established religious belief system. If you picture an upside-down tree, for instance, the trunk of the tree is the lineage of a religion through time, and the branches that stem off of that trunk are the cults of such a religion. From this perspective,  Mormonism  is a  Christian cul

Tibetan Buddhism and the Garden of One Thousand Buddhas

In the Flathead Indian Reservation located in the Rocky Mountains in Montana, in the middle of a considerable amount of farm land, lies a Buddhist sanctuary, known as The Garden of a Thousand Buddhas. The Buddha Garden represents the three vehicles of Buddhism: Hinayana, Mahayana, and Vajrayana. The Garden is Tibetan in culture, and is owned by Ewam International: Nyingma School of Tibetan Buddhism, which is basically a franchise of Buddhist Dharma centers scattered throughout the world, but are primarily found in the United States and Asia. The Garden takes around either twenty minutes or forty minutes to walk around the entire Garden, depending on which path through the Garden one desires to take. Buddhism, across the board, holds to what is known as the four noble truths, which are: first, the idea that suffering exists; second, that we suffer because we are attached; third, the way to stop suffering is to release the attachment to things; and finally, we release the attachment by f

What is Classical Apologetics?

You may have heard of the phrase,   Classical Apologetics , from studying under people such as, William Lane Craig, Frank Turek, Norman Geisler, Thomas Aquinas, Augustine, B.B. Warfield, and others, and perhaps you wondered what it means.   Classical Apologetics is one method of doing apologetics… I personally like to think that it is classical for a reason. Some other methods of doing apologetics are first,  Presuppositionalism , which is that a person presupposes that God exists, and that the reason that a person does not believe in God is because he does not believe the Bible is the word of God. The issue is that from an unbeliever’s perspective, this is circular reasoning. It emphasizes revelation as opposed to reason.  Another method of apologetics is  Evidentialism , which is essentially to follow the evidence where it leads and using this evidence to support Christian claims. Sometimes people refer to it as being a subtype as Classical Apologetics, essentially being the second s

Defending Christianity against Mormonism

“But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect ” (NIV 1 Peter 3:15). In other words, LOVE THEM . Mormons                                                             Biblical Truths Mormons are monolaters, meaning, they believe in many gods, yet worship only one. LDS believe that “As man is, God once was; and as God is, man may become.” LDS do not believe in Hell. LDS believe God is flesh and bones. LDS believe in baptism for the dead. LDS believe Jesus and Satan are created brothers. LDS do not believe in the Trinity. LDS believe that “it is by grace we are saved, after all we can do” (Nephi 25:23). Deuteronomy 6:4 says, “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one” (See also Isaiah 43:11; Acts 5:4; 1 Timothy 2:5; Exodus 20:3; et. al.). God kn

Does Baptism Save People from Sin?

There is a lot of confusion, and I would go as far to say that there is a perversion, of baptism in the world today. Some people, such as those in the Church of Christ, teach that baptism is a requirement for salvation. Others say that baptism is something we can do for the dead . But what does the Bible teach about baptism?   Those who say that baptism is a requirement for salvation use verses like 1 Peter 3:21 which says,  baptism which corresponds to this now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience through the resurrection of Christ Jesus…  This is not talking about soul salvation but being saved from one’s own bad conscience. In other words, by obeying Jesus in getting baptized, we have a good conscience in doing so. Other times some  people  may use Acts 2:37-38 to show that baptism is a requirement for salvation.  Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers,

“I don’t have a religion, I have a relationship.”

Many people make this claim, but why do so many run from the label of religion? To define religious and religion is not an easy task, because there isn’t really a consensus on what precisely, a religion is. Why is there something rather than nothing? Because something transcends us. A practical understanding of when one is called “religious,” is that it means that this person is devoted to their beliefs about that which transcends them . [1] So also, a religion is a system of practices that reflect belief and understanding of one’s worldview; specifically, this system focuses on the relationship between the human element and the spiritual element. It seems that the word religion is being understood as an insult in today’s language. This probably comes from newer generations coming up through the works and seeing the problems that religions of the world create and do not want to have any association with something that places their relationship with Jesus in the sa

The Two Systems: A Confused Definition of Love

A couple years ago I wrote an article called  the Jehovah’s Witness training videos . The article was meant to be humorous in a sense, because there are likely not any actual training videos, but it seems that they have all watched them. We can suspect this because they all often have the same points of conversation. When you talk about the Trinity, they will use the Bible like a machine gun and shoot you with verses. The verses are always the same: Colossians 1:15, Mark 10:18… So, there is an implication that they all have the same information. There is one source from where they gather their patterns and behaviors. Similarly, I think we can see the power behind the system of the world as well. We can see what this power is like by the tracks he leaves behind. The contrast of the two systems is really seen in Revelation 14:8. “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who made all nations drink the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality.” John is using the word  Babylon  here for